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Post by FezNTFC on May 6, 2010 13:23:52 GMT
So come one everyone, who have you voted for? I eventually went for Labour, after a brief spell of flirting with Mr. Clegg!
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Post by Bismarck on May 6, 2010 13:32:40 GMT
As long as the Tories don't get in I don't care...
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Post by Desktop Hoggy on May 6, 2010 14:41:51 GMT
Icelandic Volcano Party
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Post by tigertiger on May 6, 2010 15:24:05 GMT
Off to vote now, but not sure who to vots :S either Lib Dem or Labour, sway to the former cos we need a change in Hull after 40 plus years with Labour MP's
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Post by JoeLatics on May 7, 2010 6:42:03 GMT
Latest Results (7.40)
Conservative: 285 Labour: 233 Liberal Democrats: 50 Scottish National Party: 6 Plaid Cymru: 3 Others: 18
Biggest News:
* Northern Ireland's first minister and DUP leader Peter Robinson has been defeated in East Belfast by the Alliance party * The Greens have gained their first MP at Westminster - party leader Caroline Lucas in Brighton Pavillion * Education secretary Ed Balls hung on in Morley and Outwood by just over 100 votes but former Home Secretary Charles Clarke narrowly lost to the Lib Dem candidate in Norwich South * Jacqui Smith, who stood down as home secretary over her expenses, lost her Redditch seat to the Conservative but Hazel Blears retained her seat in Salford * Labour's Margaret Hodge beat the BNP's Nick Griffin in Barking and Dagenham, with a 5% increase in her vote * Esther Rantzen came fourth in Luton South, which went to the Labour candidate * Lib Dem frontbencher Lembit Opik has lost his Montgomeryshire seat after suffering a 13.2% swing to the Conservatives * There were angry scenes and calls for an inquiry after people were turned away from polling stations as long queues formed ahead of the 2200 BST voting deadline.
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Post by tigertiger on May 7, 2010 10:00:19 GMT
Labour win with a majority of 641 in Hull North! Bastards!!!! I despise Dianna Johnson, weeing labour whip who done monkey's all for Hull just bums the party leaders. Hopefully we will have another election in October, after 5 months of Tory failure and people will realise the mistake they've made voting Noddy in as a minority government and also we can get rid of Dianna Johnson up here in 'ull
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Post by FezNTFC on May 7, 2010 10:14:38 GMT
Well, I had a suspect feeling my vote would be wasted, and it was. Labour finished a measly third in Daventry, Conservatives 1st and Lib Dems 2nd.
Very interesting scenario we have now. From reading between the lines of what Clegg, Cable and Ashdown have all said, I get the distinct feeling they are not going to enter a coalition with Labour.
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Post by tigertiger on May 7, 2010 15:22:16 GMT
Problem is the tories don't want a coallition either, i reckon we'll have a Tory minority government propped up by the Lib Dems atm, but i think when Labour get a new leader then that may sway Clegg to go along with them, thus another election required by the autumn and hopefully sense prevails and we have a strongis "Lib-Lab" coallition along with a referendum on proportional voting by beginning of the next year
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Post by JoeLatics on May 7, 2010 16:09:59 GMT
Cameron will never give into PR, which will be Clegg's número uno concern.
Still could be LibLab.
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Post by FezNTFC on May 7, 2010 16:49:38 GMT
I know I have only just entered my journalism career, but I pledge to you all now that I will NEVER work for this pile of rubbish. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/election2010/2963994/Brown-offers-Clegg-political-reform-deal.htmlThe election is over and they still feel the need to brainwash and bully Brown. It is his constitutional right to see if he can form a coalition, so what the hell is the problem! Whatever The Sun thinks, Cameron has no divine right to claim power as his if he cannot form a stable government, especially when the person in question only has 36% of the share of votes! It is my opinion that The Sun has completely lost any of the little dignity it had left during this campaign, and I think it sums up the country when a large number of people turn to it for their political views. ************************************************* On a side note, isn't it amazing how nearly every single media outlet came out in support for Mr. Cameron, with the exception of The Guardian (Liberal Democrat) and The Mirror (Labour), yet he STILL couldn't win a majority, coupled with the fact that he was up against one of the most unpopular PM's we've ever had!
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Post by Stealth on May 7, 2010 17:03:26 GMT
As per usual the electorate fall back on the two main parties despite both having proved in the last 20 years they can't run an economy (unless it's their own expense account) & neither can they find a happy medium between left & right wing policies. I absolutely despair of this country - for the first time a chance to vote for & even get proper change & the voters just slump back in their normal apathy. Maybe pundits are right when they say you get the politicians you deserve.
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Post by Desktop Hoggy on May 7, 2010 17:15:48 GMT
After 5 minutes of dawdling who to vote for (BTW I was the last person to vote as I casually strolled in to an empty polling station at 9.52pm) I voted for Lib Dem, purely because the local candidate lives two streets away from me. The others lived on the other side of Bradford, except one who lives in Barnsley.
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Post by tigertiger on May 7, 2010 22:06:17 GMT
i hate poloticians!!!!
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Post by Desktop Hoggy on May 8, 2010 0:27:46 GMT
With a hung parliament in force, this is a fantastic opportunity for the public to make their voices heard.
I would like to start by stop putting up fuel and alcohol duty all the time FFS
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Post by Desktop Hoggy on May 8, 2010 0:28:59 GMT
With a hung parliament in force, this is a fantastic opportunity for the public to make their voices heard.
I would like to start by stop putting up fuel and alcohol duty all the time FFS. I'm not interested in escalators, I want to see cuts in fuel duty. Not only it's more affordable to drive but the price of goods will lower in price along with inflation dropping.
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Post by Bismarck on May 8, 2010 7:59:34 GMT
The tepid result certainly does not reflect well on the British people, on the millions of immigrants with which Labour has stuffed the UK, or on Cameron. After decades of predation by the Left, a majority vote for the two Leftist parties??
A sad day for Britain...
Cameron fell into the trap of assuming he would automatically form a government when NuLabour lost the election.
He also took no account, or failed to truly recognize the impact the expenses scandal would have on the people. Oh yes, he made the right noises, but the people saw it for what it was, empty mealy mouthed platitudes.
However, there is also another reason why the conservatives did not win or get a resounding majority and you can almost pinpoint the time and subject matter.
The EU referendum.
There are constitutional documents such as Magna Carta and 1689 Bill of Rights that Brown breached when he sneaked off to sign it.
And Cameron's response to all this...
He knows and millions of us know there is absolutely nothing stopping us having a referendum.
If he wants people to vote for him, he needs to recognize and respond to the will of the people, otherwise he won't get their votes. Plain and simple
Maybe, just maybe, this election has taught the career politicans something. They may not know what it is, but they know there is something and it is to do with the people and that they will have to work at this, if they want to stay in their chosen career.
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Post by Stealth on May 10, 2010 18:55:05 GMT
Big problems for every party now. Obvious coalition for a good majority is Con/Lib but the Tories will never agree to Proportional Representation so that will probably rule that out. A more natural coalition is Lib/Lab but they would still only have an overall majority of 2 so it would still be very difficult to push bills through Parliament. Personally, I hope for the second as PR is obviously the only way to break the two party stranglehold that has milked this country for the last 100 years.
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Post by Bismarck on May 11, 2010 0:14:07 GMT
Cameron has the upper hand. Going to Labour will damage Clegg in the eyes of the people. The country voted to reject Brown and his party on Thursday. Clegg got a reduced vote also so it will look like a loser supporting another loser. If they have a another election in October that will go against Clegg.
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Post by Stealth on May 12, 2010 13:55:00 GMT
Absolutely right Otto - and you've been proved so now. From the details of the coalition on Beeb's site: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8677933.stm it's probably as close to what I'd like to see in government than there has ever been in my lifetime. Still not going to be easy but there has obviously been far more in common between the Lib Dems & Tories than many would have expected - and not just on individual freedoms either..
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Post by Bismarck on May 12, 2010 14:55:47 GMT
Actually, it's my guess that the Tories will be the ones to rip this union apart. Cameron really didn't detoxify the party and once they suspect that they aren't going to get their way on things like Europe and public spending cuts, they'll start to make life very difficult for their leader. Just look what they did to John Major and he had a majority.
They're already seething that Cameron couldn't secure them an outright victory. If he hadn't secured his place in number 10, he'd have been dead meat. This agreement was just as much about saving his own arse.
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Post by Stealth on May 13, 2010 18:09:10 GMT
Major difference though (no pun untended!) was that when Major became leader it was at the end of a long conservative term which had become tired, corrupt & dispirited. I suspect if they tried to disrupt the party this early on in government it would just lead to another election, as they don't have a clear majority, and this would alienate many voters as their Coalition policy being "A strong, stable government in the national interest" would have been seen to be completely hollow.
I agree that it was as much about saving his own skin but, unless he & Clegg are consummate actors, they certainly seemed to have a personal chemistry at the joint press conference - which at least gives me cause for optimism.
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