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Post by gerry09 on Oct 6, 2009 9:37:17 GMT
timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2009/10/cowardly-rangers-turn-a-blind-eye-to-bigotry.html#moreYou couldn't make up the first Rangers supporters comment! Classic "whataboutery" What about them! monkey's sake grow up and accept your part in this. My teams support is not whiter than white and there are some arseholes in our support but not to the extent you find in the Rangers support. I was just mentioning this to a Celtic supporter in work and he honestly just said "there's a time and a place for that" what hope does this country have?
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Post by arover on Oct 6, 2009 15:45:09 GMT
The bigotry goes on and on. I'm not sure that it's realistic to expect it ever to go away but what do I know I only observe from afar.
What do you think Gerry?
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Post by gerry09 on Oct 6, 2009 16:05:07 GMT
Someone once joked 'bigotry is like yeast its inbred!'. I hope on hope that one day this horrible beast is slayed but I very much doubt it. You need to remember that rangers are a club who for over 100 years would openly admit they had an anti catholic signing policy, and when they did sign le petit merde (Mo Johnstone) there was an outcry of biblical proportions, ripped up season books, thousands of fans claiming they would never go back and so on. They sing a song called the famine song which includes, amongst other many racist lines, "the famine is over why don't you go home". Can you imagine the outcry if folk sang lines like that about any other ethnicity or lines like that about Muslims or Jewish people. That song was passed off by one 'journalist' up here as nothing more than "banter". Honestly banter. Some of the Celtic fans are disgraceful in the songs they sing which include pro ira lyrics. Why they sing these songs is something I won't ever try and understand, maybe I was just brought up differently but supporting your team and getting one over that shower from the other side of the city involved beating them not singing about a terrorist organisation. Has racism went away? Not really its just not as open as it once was. Has bigotry in Glasgow went away? not really its just not as open as it once was. Also bigotry isn't just a west of Scotland problem as the red tops would have you believe, its something which can be witnessed in any ground across Scotland...but hey its just banter...we should take that chip off our shoulders afterall there are plenty of potatoes now!
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Post by arover on Oct 6, 2009 16:14:47 GMT
Someone once joked 'bigotry is like yeast its inbred!'. I hope on hope that one day this horrible beast is slayed but I very much doubt it. You need to remember that rangers are a club who for over 100 years would openly admit they had an anti catholic signing policy, and when they did sign le petit merde (Mo Johnstone) there was an outcry of biblical proportions, ripped up season books, thousands of fans claiming they would never go back and so on. They sing a song called the famine song which includes, amongst other many racist lines, "the famine is over why don't you go home". Can you imagine the outcry if folk sang lines like that about any other ethnicity or lines like that about Muslims or Jewish people. That song was passed off by one 'journalist' up here as nothing more than "banter". Honestly banter. Some of the Celtic fans are disgraceful in the songs they sing which include pro ira lyrics. Why they sing these songs is something I won't ever try and understand, maybe I was just brought up differently but supporting your team and getting one over that shower from the other side of the city involved beating them not singing about a terrorist organisation. Has racism went away? Not really its just not as open as it once was. Has bigotry in Glasgow went away? not really its just not as open as it once was. Also bigotry isn't just a west of Scotland problem as the red tops would have you believe, its something which can be witnessed in any ground across Scotland...but hey its just banter...we should take that chip off our shoulders afterall there are plenty of potatoes now! Very happy with that analysis Gerry. We've never played Rangers in my memory so I've not seen it at first hand. We did however get blatted out of the UEFA by Celtic a few years back when Souness was in charge. When Celtic came to town their support en masse in the ground was needless to say impressive but rubbing shoulders with a good few of them in the boozers after and before there was a good proportion of dick brains who were in no way adverse to a bit of the old sectarianism. It's pretty deeply ingrained stuff and appeals very successfully to the more intellectually challenged who need to feel as if they belong.
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Post by gerry09 on Oct 6, 2009 16:22:19 GMT
Rover I know exactly what you mean. I was in Milan for a last 16 game (ah happier days I actually sighed writing that) and all was great and fun and then mainly Irish supporters, joined by folk who wouldn;t know Ireland if they found it in their soup, started singing their songs. Was embarrassing. Cringeworthy and enraging all in one, beign told by someone 'they'll never walk down garvaghy road' asked the guy what that had to do with Celtic and he said we're all one family and as such one members problem was all of our problem and we were born out of oppresion and we have to stick together. Told him I think we support different teams and left. Wanted to come home at that point then I remembered where home was!
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Post by arover on Oct 10, 2009 10:33:34 GMT
Rover I know exactly what you mean. I was in Milan for a last 16 game (ah happier days I actually sighed writing that) and all was great and fun and then mainly Irish supporters, joined by folk who wouldn;t know Ireland if they found it in their soup, started singing their songs. Was embarrassing. Cringeworthy and enraging all in one, beign told by someone 'they'll never walk down garvaghy road' asked the guy what that had to do with Celtic and he said we're all one family and as such one members problem was all of our problem and we were born out of oppresion and we have to stick together. Told him I think we support different teams and left. Wanted to come home at that point then I remembered where home was! Actually on that theme I was away on Thursday night staying in a hotel in the Fetihye area with some friends and as we drove into the car park there was a car there with a Blackburn Rovers sticker in the back window. Needless to say you don't seee many of them in Turkey so once we were in the bar I found out who it belonged to and went over for a chat. The bloke was a complete and utter dick brain, I was embarrassed that he was a fellow supporter. We spoke of the game which won us the league in '95 at Anfield which I was at, he of course wasn't but he insisted that the game was played at Ewood even after I'd told him 5 or 6 times that it wasn't and that I was there. He knew diddly about football but was opinionated and forceful about every aspect of it. He can monkey's off.
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Post by gerry09 on Oct 10, 2009 17:06:41 GMT
Haha nothing worse than being linked by your team to someone who is an arsehole
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Post by redordead on Oct 10, 2009 20:38:20 GMT
Tell me about it, we have to put up with Mick Hucknall!!!
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Post by Stealth on Oct 11, 2009 14:26:16 GMT
Tell me about it, we have to put up with Mick Hucknall!!! It can't get much worse than that!
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Post by Wolvensam on Nov 8, 2009 16:58:52 GMT
I see Mowbray is weaving his magic, aka chatting poo as usual....
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Post by Wolvensam on Mar 27, 2010 10:10:27 GMT
Mick linked with the Celtic job. You can bugger off.
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Post by Desktop Hoggy on Apr 18, 2010 22:03:55 GMT
Celtic attendances have been in serious decline of late.
58,000 happy to turn for the Arsenal game yet 29,650 turned up to the Hibs game yesterday. Either the recession has gripped Scotland like the cold snap or their fans are absolutely fickle.
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